水藥一換就舊疾復發 - 藥物,藥學討論
By Cara
at 2021-12-19T18:02
at 2021-12-19T18:02
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>完整藥方在醫師病歷上,他並沒有給我。煮的藥材中我確定的萊菔子、麥芽、雞內金、陳
>皮、厚朴跟山楂。還有一些我不確定的如下方照片。
先聲明
純學術討論,臨床實際狀況你還是要去問你的醫師
按你說的你一開始因為胃脹氣、頭痛去找醫師,開水藥給你吃,假如是下面這個水藥
方吃半年,我猜你的頭痛是前額(眉棱骨)頭痛為主,
https://imgur.com/U9emgyA
看起來像大腹皮、白芷、澤瀉、雞內金、枳實、
加上你說的萊服子、麥芽、陳皮、厚朴、山楂
科中粉保和丸、佛手和穀芽
這湊起來是要消導的方,暫時消導其實可以快速緩解脹氣等症狀,
但如果長期吃卻未補虛,容易越攻越虛,導致病情反覆難癒。
不過因為你只列這張水藥藥方,說不定醫師有另外再加補藥,你自己得再去觀察。
有個方叫枳實消痞丸,方中枳實行氣消痞為君;厚朴行氣除滿為臣;黃連清熱泄痞,半夏麴散結和胃,乾薑溫中
祛寒,人參補氣扶正,白朮、茯苓健脾祛濕,麥櫱消食和胃,以上均為佐藥;炙甘草調和
諸藥為使。全藥消補兼施,溫清并用,共奏行氣消痞,開胃進食之效。
這個方攻補兼施,看起來就會比單獨攻平穩。
推 guemao: 抱歉 是厚朴惡澤瀉 如果真的有厚朴 建議換醫生了 12/17 00:49
推 b01106040: 樓上想請教為什麼 胃苓湯就有澤瀉配厚朴呀 12/17 01:16
推 b01106040: 可以請教出處嗎?只有看到本草備要有提到這點,至少看 12/17 23:23
→ b01106040: 到二個方劑有這個組合,不太清楚是什麼原理 是甘寒跟苦 12/17 23:23
→ b01106040: 溫不可以放在一起嗎? 12/17 23:23
推 b01106040: 如果是同時入胃一寒ㄧ熱有反的狀況的關係嗎?(不過講 12/17 23:25
→ b01106040: 澤瀉入胃的現在應該比較少?) 12/17 23:25
厚朴 徐之才曰︰乾薑為之使。惡澤瀉、硝石、寒水石。忌豆,食之動氣。 本草蒙荃、本草綱目、本草備要都是引這個說法,
原則上確實厚朴比較少同時跟澤瀉一起,但這要看醫師對病人臨床判斷,
以及希望達到的作用來看,就像胃苓湯中厚朴就跟澤瀉一起用,
再舉個例子,如一般民眾可能知道人參通常不跟蘿蔔一起吃,
但其實中醫師是可能把人參跟萊菔子一起使用的,
這兩個藥就補氣、下氣;一溫一寒根本完全相反,
https://hainve.com/food/440899.html
同時入胃一寒一熱這個並不是相惡的理由,
半夏瀉心湯 乾薑、黃連;交泰丸 肉桂、黃連;
厚朴三物湯、小承氣湯、厚朴大黃湯 厚朴、大黃、枳實
具體應該是看醫師想要達到的療效而定,
只能說 所謂的相惡相反是給一般初學者基礎上手用的原則,
真正臨床上還是看得到突破這些原則的例外的。
所以不要太早說如果厚朴跟澤瀉配在一起,就該換醫師,
有時候要討論看看,才知道合不合理,然後再評估患者吃藥後療效,
這樣才是比較客觀的做法。
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